Re: oa national rule changes
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Fri, 22 Nov 1991 17:30:45 CST
No - I have not disappeared, just rather busy here at Northwestern today.
Just read your very lengthy (I am used to that) message on the OA/Explorer
issue and just have to add my comments.
I may very well be in the minority on the female SM issue, but then, I have
not YET accepted female Cubmasters, and they have been allowed since 1972!
I was a single parent raising two boys through puberity - and having come
from a family of six girls, this was a wierd and wonderful experience. Can
NOT tell you how many thousands of times I called my sons' SM to ask what
must have sounded like "dumb" questions. Boys are definitely different
from girls, in more ways than I ever knew!
I specifically remember my eldest son's request to teach him how to shave.
I can truly shave a mean leg, but faces - what! Thanks to their SM and his
unending patience and ability to talk to a boy, both my sons learned, and
as all men I have ever know, hate shaving.
No - I do not want to me a role model for the young boys in our country, at
least not one of a man. I have no problem, however, being a role model for
me, and for a woman. So -- since we only allow female SMs because so few
males are willing to give their time (in most cases, exceptions noted) then
your solution, Mike, might be get those men up and caring about the future
male population. (Sure you do that anyway)
The new policy statement does not deal with the adult side of elections at
all. I found that interesting, and confusing, so have sent off my
questions through the proper channels to the National OA committee, from
whence came these words of wisdom/destruction (depending on who you listen
As far as I know adults from Cub Scouting and Exploring never were supposed
to be made a part of OA, and I can find nothing in my books, etc. on
Exploring that says they should. So that point is not something I can
Our council, and surrounding ones, still do to my knowledge elect adults,
not appoint. I am very pleased that I am here in the midwest, and we
thought our councils were messed up!
However - since you seem to feel so very strong about this OA issue, I
would think that your Lodge Chief, area, and regional OA reps , etc. should
be notified in writing, and your complaint forwarded with as much haste as
possible to the Nat'l committee for OA. They are the ones who changed this
policy, and although it really hurts to say so, they may know something we
just do not know. Would surely like to know why they came to this
As an outsider looking in, it has seemed for years that the OA was really
becoming a club for adults to play in - that boys had less and less to do
with the program of OA - and since that goes against everything that OA
should be, in fact, the Patrol Method in the troops depends on the BOYS
running and planning the program - I am unhappy with what I see.
Hope you can all settle this matter out - if I hear anything more, I will
surely let you know.
Chicago Area Council
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