Re: In a knot over knots!
Don Izard (IZARD@UBVM.BITNET)
Wed, 30 Oct 1991 13:15:55 EST
general question: Whose job is it to notify each and every ADULT
that he is posibly entitled to earn and/or wear various awards?
My dad was a carreer/veteran volunteer scouter and had served
in positions from assistant den leader, scout committees,
Explorer advisor, ADC, District Committee, Council Camping COmit,
Distirct Commissioner, CHairman of Prostestant Committee and
others I forget. He also was very involved in training a
Schiff, Philmont as well as Woodbadge. He had earned knots on top
of knots, but only wore two, one for that silver "canadian" animal,
and the old scouters key. He never really told me why he only wore
those two, and he NEVER wore beads. So I knew about the sqaure knots
as well as ribons, placques, medalions etc, when I was a scout.
However, once I got into scouting as an adult, no one ever mentioned
anything about these awards or how to get them. I had replaced my
Eagle and Arrow of light with the knots. But for a long time, I
didn't how to GET or erarn the other awards, of what if any I was
entitled to earn or what I may have already have earned. It wasn't
til after I had been a Cub Master (trained) and Webelos Den Leader,
(also trained), and was serving on the staff at the Webelos OUTDOOR
training weekend, that someone asked me about my knots of LACK there of.
I had already been to training, and POW WOWs, served as CM for THREE
years and WEB den leader, ultimately for three years, One before CM,
and two after CM, but NO ONE EVER GAVE ME THE STINKING FORMS TO FILL OUT!!!
SO, I went "DOWN town" and filled out some forms, and had to get some
signatures, (after some of the facts), and sometime later, the Pack
committee chairman comes over to a SCOUT meeting, and drops off some
little plastic boxes with knots and pins. VERY Impressive! I was
by that time serving on the Troop committee, and had already been
to Scout Leader training, and since that time, was presented with
the scouters key, which is now the third knot I wear (since my dad
wore one). So I was one of those that would have raised a hand,
after 6 years in Cub Scouting, I had no awards! But I really didn't
care either. I had the training and we had a good program with
up to 50 families in the Pack programs! But I am sure there are
people that DO care, and do appreciate the KNOT as some form of
award for all the time and work. But I also never expect to get
a silver "canadian" animal, becuase I annoy too many people. I
ask WHY? and I expect people to do their jobs! Just because it's
a RULE today, don't mean it shouldn't or can't be changed. BSA
has some BAD rules that NEED to be changed! Some programs don't
work, and some changes had not been for the better! The Eagle
badges are again almost an exact copy of the 60's version! WHy
did they ever change that ? And one more question . . . besides
who is incharge of KnOTS, who is in charge of "veterans pins"?
I have been in scouting since 1957, and continuously registered,
even while in Germany (Trans Atlantic Council), but have never
received anything but various YEAR pins! How do you get a
veteran pin, and what are the rules. . . Years in the same position
in the same unit of the same council, or total years in scouting
or total years as an adult (definition of adult???) or what?
If I really cared I am sure I could find out! But the point is
that I think there are those that DO care, and that a little award
or even a five year pin would give that boost to get them over the
"I am gonna quit this lousy program" feelings.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City