Re: trying again....
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Thu, 17 Oct 1991 16:49:40 CDT
Here I am, just as you have conjured me up in your last message! The
council you visited was Northwest Suburban Council as their headquarters
are in Arlington Heights; Northeast Illinois Council is headquartered in
Highland Park, Il. (Coincidentally, I live in Northeast Illinois Council
and spent 18 years of my 19 there as a scouter.)
Yes - I can check into this for you if you wish - however, the history of
woodbadge is not so very strange nor is it secret, but then I have some
materials from Gilwell on the subject, and maybe I just assume everyone
knows these things.
The attitude around here all last Spring was pretty touchy when it came to
Woodbadge, as the Chicago Area course had two people walk out on it, go to
the news media, and accuse the course, BSA, etc, and on and on of
discrimination because the "beads" were stripped from the neck of a dead
african. (Not true by the way.)
The result was that all surrounding councils (Northwest Suburban is one)
caught some of the flack, especially when the ACLU started looking into the
case. However, they were never fired, they were professional scouters, and
part of their job contract was to take Woodbadge and since they refused,
they broke their contract. However, in the spirit of good Scouting, our
council did offer them their positions back, if they would comply with
their contract. They refused. Do not know where they are today and care
I help bead in both Boy Scout and Cub Scout Woodbage, and each course, all
the people involved, and indeed the out of doors, and God, all had a hand
in helping me find me through this training, helping me understand people,
and more that I could not possibly write. Woodbadge evil? It sure must
be, I have seen person after person change, become more complete, become
more understanding, care more for the boy, just because of the effects of
the course. That kind of evil - let's all hope for!
Think you are a bit hard on the Mormon Church, guys. After all this past
summer when we were again challenged on the religious statement and policy
of our movement, it was the Mormon Church that issued a written statement
that said if BSA changes it's position or in any way bends to this type of
regretful pressure, the Mormon Church would remove itself immediately.
Since they are the only faith that has seen themselves able to use
(actually use) the program of Scouting to advance their youth ministery, I
have a great deal of trouble understanding the bad feelings. (And yes we
have a great many Mormon units in our part of Illinois).
If you wish, I will certainly track down whatever information you need from
here - just ask, as I know people in most of the surrounding councils.
Chicago Area Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City