Re: The 18 month Webelos Program
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Thu, 10 Oct 1991 09:19:14 CDT
> Actually the two year Webelos Program is not quite that. Perhaps if you
> begin counting months as soon as they finish the third grade (which you
> should) you get closer to a 2 year program. All of my 2nd year webelos
> will be 11 years old long before they finish the fifth grade. In fact,
> 6 of 8 will be 11 by the end of January when we will cross over to
> the troop. Having begun in October 1990 (the pack did not run in the summer
> in 1990), the crossing over in Jan/Feb 1992 will mean about 17 months for my
> guys. You know they can read and when it says you can be 10.5 and hold the
> arrow of light to be a boy scout, you can't hold them back. We will cross
> over early enough that they can have substantial time to advance and get used
to the troop environment before the summer camp where they will likely finish
their 1st class. Fast? But their ready and old enough. Is it fair to make
> them be cub scouts after their 11???
> steve myers, WDL
Good Morning, Steve,
Yes the Webelos program is just that - 2 years. In Scouting we refer to
years by Scout years (which equals school year). Therefore, for the past
number of years (I believe seven now) National has been trying to change
the thinking of the volunteers to follow the directive of "grade not age."
Therefore, you will find the emphasis on grade in the literature
everywhere. Since Cub Scouting as a whole is lenient to a degree, we
continue to keep the "age" as an option in the case of exceptions to the
rules. However, the key word here is exception.
Yes - boys are supposed to be graduating into Webelos at the end of the
"school or scout" year of 3rd grade. Their paid registrations are for a 12
month program, and with the numerous options available for summertime
programming, it really is not too difficult to maintain the pack program
through the months that are fun to be out of doors. Many Day Camp programs
provide ways in which the Webelos can work on their own advancement during
the summer program, and so -- come the fall (and I hate it when that means
November or December as I have seen some packs start up in those months)
the brand new 4th graders (1st year Webelos) have a headstart on the year.
Keep in mind that the "year" is always a scout year. Then, I think you
will understand that when in our literature we refer to the two year
Webelos program, it is just that -- 4th grade and 5th grade. If your pack
does not fulfill the 12 month committment of the boys' registration, as
many packs across our country do not, that is no problem. The boy himself
can continue to work on his badges and be ready to present the information
and/or projects in the fall to his den leader.
The 2nd year Webelos program (5th grade) is slanted heavily to the outdoor
program with the idea of preparing the boys to actually have scout outdoor
skills prior to entering the troop. ( Maybe just to surprise our
Scoutmasters? - they have in the past received few Webelos Scouts who were
really prepared for the initial scout skills, even with the activitiy
badges and skill awards requirements being made equal) Why? The
Scoutmaster and the troop with a strong patrol method troop will easily see
how the den (now patrol) can be quickly assimulated into the troop itself.
Hope some of this information helps - never do know when to stop, since I
feel so strongly about the Webelos transition, our movement, etc.
Our literature (even the Webelos book) supports what I have stated here,
and then some.
By the way - hazing IS defined in the national rules and regulations - and
in most of our training literature- it is one of those things NOT open to
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City