Re: Sexual Pref-- Orientat
Mon, 16 Sep 1991 11:42:09 U
Reply to: RE> Sexual Pref-- Orientation
>I think that many of us are at a loss as to what to do whether GAY or
>STRAIGHT. I know many people that are very concerned about their
>own interaction with children, worried that ANY attempt at counseling
>or one on one contact can be misconstrued as an overture by the child
>or another adult. Personal assets at stake if they make the wrong
This is, unfortunately, very true.
>I do NOT believe that GAYNESS and ABUSE are synonimous, I do believe
>that ALL adults need to be concerned about their image and actions
>WITHIN scouting. BSA stresses that even straight couples should camp
>in different tents, removing that sexual element from a situation where
>it is inappropriate and irrelevant.
>I personally know MANY openly gay people that I believe to be people
>of good character, but if I allowed them to work with my kids,
>just like straight people, I would ask them to keep their private lives
>to themselves. That is keep it PRIVATE.
Here's where I begin to wonder what you mean... Are you saying that gay
people should hide their very gayness? If a Scout askes a leader who is in a
monogamous committed long-term relationship with another man if he is married,
what should the Scoutmaster say? If the Scoutmaster says Yes is that not
keeping his life private? Would you expect a heterosexual Scoutmaster to keep
mum or lie about his marital status? If a straight assistant Scoutmaster
brings his girlfriend to view a Court of Honor, is the gay ASM supposed to
leave his boyfriend out of the ceremony? If a Scout asks a straight counselor
for advice in asking girls out, can the counselor use personal experience in
framing his answer? Can the gay counselor do the same, explaining that asking
men out is his experience but it's all pretty much the same?
>I think we ALL have trouble
>enough trying to teach children how to be responsible adults without
>adding alot of confusing and maybe "irresponsible" behavior by the
What is "irresponsible" behavior in your definition, and why did you choose to
put it in quotes? For that matter, what is "confusing" behavior? If you mean
when adults say that they have gay friends and they have nothing against gay
people, but they shouldn't be around the kids for whatever possible reasons, or
it might look bad, then yes ma'am, that is most definitely confusing. If
you're talking about a society that says gays are anti-family and then kick gay
teens out of their homes, that's confusing. If you mean the anti-suicide
literature Scouting distributes that don't mention that distress over sexual
orientation accounts for 30% of teen suicides (US-HHS report, 1991, actual
reference on request), then yes, that is truly confusing.
When you dictate standards for gay people, make sure you want them applied to
straights as well.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City