Re: PATCH TRADING
Don Izard (IZARD@UBVM.BITNET)
Wed, 4 Sep 1991 10:48:29 EDT
I agree that it would be very "nice" if patch trading was just a nice
way to meet new scouts, and gain a momento of a scouting experience.
But that is a very narrow and idealistic view of the reality that
now exists. Old scouting patches, uniforms and even simple camp
patches are worth big money to collectors and dealers. There are
sales and auctions, every week almost, that list scouting items
"selling" for thousands of dollars! YES $1,000's!! If an average
scout found some of these patches in his grandfathers attic, maybe
some round felt patch, with only a few colors, maybe not even
embroidered, he might take them to an event and trade it to some
other scout (youth), for next to nothing. Most younger scouts count
the colors and the amount of embroidery, and could care less if the
felt patch is from an OA lodge that has been extinct for 40 years!
I would like to see adults included in all trades and take on the
roles of patch "advisors", and not police. Members of the remaining
collectors/traders groups could help to train and/or act as the source
of information of values for younger scouts. Having been at several
Jamborees, and numerous international events, I find it much more
common to see a SCOUT (youth, maybe 16) be the rip off artists!
He may know that a FELT two color patch can be worth $1000 or more!
You also see these same scouts claiming certain patches are "restricted"
and are worth five of your patches, and then later you see them pull
out a stack from their patch case etc.
My own twelve year old son would much rather trade with "adult" scouters!
He says they always give you a better deal!!! I wish he could be hear
as a witness. He visted the last Jambo as a Cub! I gave him 6 csp's.
He wound up with more than a dozen, plus two OA flaps, and some rounds!
You may ask, "wasn't there a RULE about scouts trading with adults?".
Yes there was, but it wasn't enforced unless someone got a complaint,
or was caught buying or selling by the "patch police". Sure it's nice
to think of that ideal that a "one of mine for one of yours" trade is
all that there is. But old scout stuff is almost as collectable as
old baseball cards, and there are hundreds of "dealers" out there.
Sure there are a few adults that might take advantage of a scout, but
what image does that give of our adult leaders, IF they can't be trusted
to trade patches with a SCOUT??? We trust our leaders with a scouts life
on a high adventure trek, but he can't be trusted to trade patches????!
Somebody has got some real BOGUS ideas about patch trading adults!!!
scouting since '57
trading since '55
member Western NY Scout Traders Assn
PS: anybody want to trade a 61 Mickey Mantle for a 64 jamboree patch?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City