Female Explorers & Philmont
Scott Begin (34RXESC@CMUVM.BITNET)
Wed, 12 Jun 1991 00:19:11 EDT
For Chris Haggerty:
Philmont does not have any requirements that a youth member must be of a
specific rank before attending Philmont. The only requirement is that
he/she be at least age 13 by January 1 of the year attending. Rank
requirements may be imposed by those organizing the Philmont Expedition
(the local council, troops, posts, etc..) Recent past policy, which was
phased out last year, was that a youth younger than 13 could attend Philmont
if he was at least 1st class or the son of an advisor.
For Black Eagle:
As for a 19 year old female explorer attending Philmont with a group of 16-17
male scouts, I do not feel there is a set rule if this will work. When I was
a camper in 1987, I went with our Council Contingent (scouts come from
different troops). Of the three crews, mine was scouts from different troops,
and the two others were from natural troops and decided to let the council
do the organizing. In one, the advisor's daughter (age about 18) went along
(they had a female advisor in their crew -- a member of the troop committee).
Although we did not see them other than the trip out there and in Base Camp,
I do not feel her presence caused any problems. I think the scouts knew
that she was going, had done prepartory hikes with her, and were used to her
presence (I also think it had something to do with the fact seemed to stay
very close to her father even thought I feel she was very competent in the
outdoors and gave me the impression that if any of the scouts tried anything,
she would knock some sense into them) (for those interested, the entire crew
registered as explorers in order to have a Co-ed crew). The young lady you
describe sounds a lot like this.
The only problems I have heard about in situations like this are when the male
members of the crew are not used to seeing females at scout events. This is a
common problem when all male crews receive a female ranger (no matter how she
looks). My first year as a ranger, I had one female ranger remark to me that
she was glad to have a co-ed crew because they weren't all interested in her
(and I didn't think she looked that good, and at that point I'd been at
Philmont for almost two months). The best thing for her to do to avoid
problems with the scouts is to show that she is as good if not a better camper
/backpacker than they are.
As for the requirement, I think the Council Camping Committee (or whoever
oversees the organization of the trip) should set some standards to be used
for those times when a non scout wants to go on a trip such as this, and make
those requirements well known beforehand. Telling someone they can't go
right before a trip does not work if the rules have not been spelled out before
hand. It might be possible to work out requirements for Explorers, Varsity,
and Venture Scouts based on number days camping, time in unit, holding of
leadership positions, or whatever.
Another possibility for attending Philmont is the Rayado Program. One meaning
of the word Rayado is "Boundry," and participants in this program will push
their boundries, finding out what they can do. A Rayado trek lasts 15 days,
and they are offered three times during the summer (about June 20, July 10, and
Aug. 1). The have Rayado Treks for Females, although they are only offered
in July. They make up the crews from the members that come and give them two
rangers as their Adult Leaders. During their trek, they will hike 150-200
miles and learn to do lots of things they may have never thought they could do.
Rayado treks get to do lots of things that the regular crews do not get to do
such as additional rock climbs on more challenging faces. They also get to
take an itinerary made up by their rangers which can include going off the
ranch into the adjacent Valle Vidalle Unit of the Kit Carson National Forest.
The people I have talked that have taken a Rayado Trek speak highly of it.
I would recommend that anyone wanting to take a Rayado trek be a very good
camper and be in excellent shape. The cost is about $250 (compared to about
$210 for a regular trek) and the participant has to find transportation.
Scholarships are available. Any BSA member between the ages
of 16 and 20 can participate. They may still have openings for the July and
August treks this summer. Call Philmont at (505) 376-2281 and ask for the
Camping Registrar for Information About Rayado for this year. (If you want
to save calls, call between 8am-noon & 1pm-5pm Mountain Daylight Time any
day- that phone is manned 24 hours during the summer, but the registration
office is only open business hours.)
I hope this helps...
Yours in Scouting,
Scott A. Begin Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 551
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