(no name) ((no email))
Wed, 5 Jun 1991 13:08:00 EDT
I hate to sound negative, but the Scout does not go.
part of Scouting (as is life itself) is the deal that "each must be
accountable for their actions". We expect Scouts to "do the right thing"
(to coin a popular phrase of the time) when they are in the public. Surely
in real life we make exceptions, but those exceptions are based on attempting
to complete the task. It seems to me, Mr. Outsider knew of the requirement
and his son definately knew the requirement. Therefore, the Scout should be
responsible enough to recognize that he did not meet the requirements for the
trip....and should not go.
Scouting sometimes have to "play the bad guy" in our attempt to strenghten
character. There have been many times in my life as Scoutmaster and as Advisor
that I have to say "I'm sorry, but you know the rules..." and deny otherwise
great guys and girls and families from going on various trips with the units.
Yes, if they REALLY make a issue about it, yes, you may lose them.
What can help, and I offer it as advise...(take or leave)...are these
* Scouting's purpose is to build responsible youth who will become responsible
* This requirement was well known to all and if the Scout had problems in
meeting the requirement, he should have contacted someone (maybe even one
of the committee members!) way in advance.
* By allowing this Scout to go, you are saying to ALL of the Scouts "it is
okay to slack off, because you'll go anyways" (what you are REALLY saying
is "if you scream and kick hard enough, you'll get your way", something
that two and three year olds do to get their way and something we try to
discourage from the general population)
* For those reasons, and because it was the Troop Committee's rules that
established this thing (and no, rules are NOT made to be broken...bend, but
in this kid's case, since he has not started on ONE merit badge, there is
nothing to bend!), he cannot go.
Now, about that Eagle Scout...he should have had the same requirement that
the rest of the Scouts had....he CAN earn palms. Short story and then I must go
to eat luch, Ben:
When I was growing up in Fort Knox, Kentucky, Eagle Scouts were not content
with the simple earning of the badge. There was an implied (nothing written,
nothing manadated from the district or council or anyone else except those
previous Eagles) that each candidate did TWO service projects....the one
required for the Badge, and another one to benefit scouting on the base.
Eagle candidates taought merit badge classes, coordinated day camps before
we had Day Camps for Cubs in today's format, ran intertroop rallies, organized
new Troops, collected paper from military offices for recycling, repainted
entire blocks of military buildings, did research on various military units
that once used Fort Knox as a staging area, and other ones that I cannot
recall right now but was done. They again were the leaders, the ones doing
the footwork to get things done. It was expected..and those that did only
the Eagle Service Project for the badge were looked at with less than favorable
eyes. Likewise, once you made Eagle, you were obligated in an implied manner
to earn the Bronze, Gold and Silver Palms until you turned 18 or PCSed
(military term: Permanent Change of Station...moved, family reassignment)
from Fort Knox. There were acutal "running bets" (no money, just reps) on
"how many Palms you will earn" before 18....the Association of the US Army
briefly got into the act for four years and gave a $50 savings bond to
each Eagle Scout earningf a Palm, and $200 savings bonds to those earning
all three twice (in other words, earning 60 merit badges over Eagle).
I personally know of three Eagles that went to a farm in southern Hardin
County and spent the summer (except for two weeks) earning merit badges and
learning life on a farm. They came back to school in the fall...one got
a West Point appointment (his father was a Staff Sergeant) and the other two
got free-ride scholarships to big name schools (Ohio State and Notre Dame),
because they put on their application the fact that they "competed for the
Eagle Palm program by spending a summer on a farm earning 14 merit badges!"
As for myself, I earned 59 merit badges before I turned 18. I was two requir--
ments from earning the American business merit badge and could not get them
done before I turned that magical age. So I wear the Silver and Gold Palms
proudly....but not as proudly as one of my peers, now serving in the Gulf.
"little Harvey" (Harvey Scobie III) earned 94 merit badges over the 28 required
for Eagle (yep, that is THREE SILVER PALMS and 122 total...at the time there
were 148 badges!).
He dropped out of Scouting because the Council could not deal with his long
hair and Poison teeshirts. (he still wears the teeshirts). I sent him through
the Direct Service council, a year's membership and OA membership (he was our
Lodge Chief for two years!).
bottom line: If you want Scouts to excel, give them a goal. Stick to it.
and if they don't meet it, encourage them to move forward and complete it
but NOT to delete ormove the goal back or forth because "he's only a boy
Settummanque!@HEY! I came close...but close only counts in horseshoes!
(P.S. Welcome to the band, ben!)
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City