Re: Venturing and OA
William H. Sills (email@example.com)
Fri Mar 06 10:50:08 1998
I polled my Sea Scouts and the boys in our affilated troop and team about
the Order of the Arrow. The concensus was "So!!! Who cares??? THe OA is a
wonderful organization of dedicated camping Boy Scouts and former Boy
Scouts. It really has no relation to anything affecting Sea Scouting. This
year, I desperately attempted to sell my Boy SCouts on having an OA
election. Not one Scout cared.
Now, with the return of REAL High Advenure Venturing (doesn;t
exactly trip off the tongue, does it?), I think that the OA should consider
some accomodation OR, alternatively, develop a special section for High
Adventure Venturing Posts. The kids and leaders of these posts are, AT
LEAST, as dedicated campers as any member of the OA. In the same way that my
Sea Scouts have NO interest in the OA and would probably be more of a drag
on than a help to the OA, the opposite would be true of High Adventure Post
members and leaders. As far a girls goes, they would be equal members of
the V-OA. The girls that like to camp out are great. I have hunted with a
lady pistoleer in swamps, deserts, mountains, and forests on foot by
backpacking and horsepacking. W do not now and never have had any romantic
interest in each other, she is just another member of our group. We would
never have had the same quality of hunt without her. I believe the OA is the
loser for not having ladies involved.
W. Scott Breckinridge Smith wrote:
> As a former OA Section Chief (not as an Explorer), I strongly dislike
> this idea.
> Currently, Cub Scouts and Explorers, which are separate divisions from
> the Boy Scouts, are not allowed to become members of the Order of the
> Arrow (unless they are of proper age and have acheived the proper rank
> in a Boy Scout troop).
> I don't see any need to change the membership requirements for the
> Order of the Arrow solely because of this change in Exploring.
> It shuld be said that I am not one of those who detest any thought of
> women being involved in the OA or Scouting. While I was Vigil Chairman
> for my lodge, we inducted our lodge's second ever female Vigil. This
> opened up the door for a number of qualified adult leaders to receive
> this recognition. However, I see no real benefit in having youth
> females involved in Order of the Arrow activities.
> Just my opinion. Since I'm an adult now, I probably should stay out of
> this, but there it is anyway.
> Interesting point though, Alex. The great thing about the OA is that
> if you get enough youth who want to do something, you can do it!
> ---Alex Chacko John Neroth wrote:
> > Hello!
> > Currently, First Class is one of the youth requirements for being
> > for election into the Order of the Arrow (BSA's Honor Camping
> > Female Explorers have never been able to earn 1st Class, so they could
> > never join OA. What do y'all think of changing the requirement to
> > Class Scout for Boy Scouts OR Ordinary Sea Scout for Sea Scouts OR
> > [whatever will be the Explorer Scouting equivalent to Ordinary] for
> > Explorer Scouts (i.e., Outdoor Venturers)"? Just a thought...
> > Yours in Scouting,
> > Alex C. J. Neroth
> > E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~aneroth
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