Re: Ranger and Silver follow Quartermaster -Reply
Bruce C Johnson (email@example.com)
Wed Mar 04 06:23:55 1998
Ok, Ok, Ok. Let's try to get some facts into this discussion.
The new Silver Award is intended to continue on in the tradition of the
2nd Silver Award program, available from 1953 or so until 1962. It is
intended to be on par with Eagle and Quartermaster.
Let's back up a little and have a history lesson on these awards. I've
read some pretty incredible stuff about the Senior Scouting awards on this
list. Let me give everyone some facts.
Sea Scouting has had the Quartermaster Award since about 1926. While
its requirements have changed quite a bit over the years, it remains
fundamentally unchanged both in character and appearance.
Explorer Scouting's first equivalent was the Ranger Award, which was in
place from 1941 through early 1948. It was replaced by the 1st Silver
Award program in mid-1948, and replaced again in 1953 or so by the 2nd
Silver. I keep saying 'or so' because in all cases there was an overlap of
Air Scouting's (later Air Exploring's) Ace Award was made available in
1948 and discontinued in 1958. 1958 was also the year that the Silver
Award began to be phased out. By 1962, it was completely gone.
Quartermaster, Ranger, Silver (1st), Silver (2nd), and Ace all had their
own square knots. Quartermaster continues to use the blue on white knot,
but BSA hasn't made the white on navy blue or blue on khaki knots since the
early 80s. BSA decided about 1980 to make the 2nd Silver Award knot stand
for all the other Exploring awards.
The first attempt at bringing back a general, earned Exploring award was
the Exploring Achievment Award, which was available from about 1985 -
1995. (Here I'm relying on my famously unreliable memory.) This one was
replaced in 1996 or 97 by the Explorer G.O.L.D. Award. Again, both of
these awards used the 2nd Silver Award knot.
The new Silver Award rank is intended to be a direct successor to the
old Silver Award program and should be a fairly challenging achievement.
Each specialty will have a component rank as a perrequisite for earning
Silver. The National Sea Exploring Committee considered that issue last
fall and (here's where my memory _really_ fails me), we decided on either
Ordinary or Able. (It wasn't that we even considered whether Quartermaster
was easier or harder than Silver will be. We felt that that was
So, you can debate aware about what the Sea Exploring rank requirement
should be for Silver. The decision was made 6 months ago.
And as for the knots, I fully agree that there should be knots for the
new Venturing achievements and recognitions. Discussing it here, though,
won't get the job done. A formal proposal will need to be taken to the
National Exploring Committee (or its successor National Venturing
Committee) with specific recommendations.
Recommendation on that issue: There is going to be a ton or stuff to do
between now and August 1st, and the Exploring professional staff is going
to be up to their armpits with those issues. Square knots aren't likely to
be high on their list of concerns. I expect that much of the national
Exploring/Venturing hierarchy will be at the National Conference this
summer. Have your _specific_ proposal ready then. Maybe even lobby your
cluster chairs and/or your regional or national Explorer youth
representatives. Then PUSH at the conference.
Speaking only for myself,
Commodore, Sea Exploring
Northeast Region, BSA
>>> Christopher K. Sokolov <firstname.lastname@example.org> 4 March 1998 12:18 am
My understanding was that none of the new awards would be equal to the
Eagle and Quartermaster awards - ie: they won't be awarded by the National
Court of Honor. I could be wrong, though.
I don't think Quartermaster should be a prerequisite for any of the new
awards. Able, or maybe even Ordinary, seems much more appropriate.
Christopher K. Sokolov, Quartermaster
Western Region Area III Boatswain, Sea Scouts, B.S.A.