RE: Help-Need Concerns
Bill Lawrence (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Fri Feb 20 12:40:43 1998
Thank you for the clarification. I somehow missed that the chartering
groups were now the targets. While this may be too unwieldy to manage,
is there any merit to the idea that the chartering organization would
have the option of keeping the post within BSA or transferring to LFL?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troiano, John [SMTP:Troiano@First-Chair.COM]
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 1998 7:08 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: Help-Need Concerns
> For the most part, the BSA has been extremely fortunate when faced
> litigation about admission of females, atheists, and gays. The courts
> have maintained that the BSA is a private organization that can put
> membership requirements on its members, the idea of free association.
> The legal tactic of late is to shift the lawsuits to our chartering
> partners. You may remember Wells Fargo Bank had "temporarily" decided
> that it could no longer support the BSA as a Chartering Sponsor or
> Corporate Donor. Wells Fargo chose not to support an organization
> In Chicago, the lawsuit was between the ACLU and the City of Chicago.
> The City (like many corporations) can not discriminate by race,
> religion, creed, or sexual orientation. Therefore the settlement
> agreement was reached that the City could not sponsor BSA Programs.
> The facts that are often missed - include that the very next day all
> Explorer Posts were transferred to other sponsors willing to pick them
> up (i.e. Police Unions, Fire Unions, etc.)
> The National Executive Board felt that in order to prevent our
> membership requirements from negatively impacting every chartering
> partner who will be sued by the ACLU; they would separate the
> As I said in my letter, "It would be foolish for me to appear to fully
> understand all of the motivations involved in this drastic change."
> However, I am confident that the Board did not want a "mass exodus of
> sponsors" not interested in fighting the ACLU.
> John J. Troiano
> EOA Advisor
> Des Plaines Valley Council
> LaGrange, IL
> Since you are much closer to these things than I, perhaps you can
> clarify something for me. It appears that in the '80s and early
> Scouting was winning these legal battles. The really disturbing thing
> is that the Chicago case was lost, and in the process something on the
> order of 28 or more units had to recharter elsewhere. Is this the
> time Scouting has lost one of these battles?
> In light of what happened in Chicago, I'm very concerned about the
> chartering organization for our post and related scout troop, as that
> organization is in part federally funded. Should we be considering
> finding another organization when we recharter?
> This seems to me to be a much bigger issue than reorganizing Exploring
> (which I grant is a pretty big issue in its own right). What are the
> guidelines for "acceptable" chartering organizations for Scouting as a
> Bill Lawrence
> Explorer Advisor
> High-Adventure Post 150
> Gibsonia, PA