RE: Help-Need Concerns
Troiano, John (Troiano@First-Chair.COM)
Fri Feb 20 10:35:36 1998
I fully appreciate your thoughtful comments. But I maintain that if we
can't hold the National Executive Board (of our private organization)
accountable, then all is lost.
There was a recurrent theme that the BSA espoused in the 80's. "America
is returning to the values that Scouting never left."
Bill, I feel that this "knee-jerk" reaction suggests that our National
Board "caved in" on their watch!
In 1986-88, I served on the National Executive Board. Our litigation
costs were through the roof!! Ben Love, then the Chief Scout Executive,
made no excuses for the cost of defending our precepts. HE DIDN'T HAVE
John J. Troiano
Des Plaines Valley Council
>From: Bill Lawrence [SMTP:email@example.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 20, 1998 3:27 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: RE: Help-Need Concerns
>I too feel very emotional over this, but it does no good to apply blame
>to the Executive Board. Continuing this fight is much like Pickett's
>Charge, glorious but futile. And really, it happend on OUR watch and is
>largely OUR responsibility, not the boards'. The board is simply
>reacting to the reality of our current society. We, the citizenry of
>this country, have allowed society to reach the point where direct
>involvment between our government and scouting seems all but impossible.
>What a tragedy! The real challenge now is to make sure that the values
>we treasure are instilled in the scouts, so that on their watch they may
>reclaim what we have lost.
>Yours in Scouting,
>High-Adventure Post 150
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Troiano, John [SMTP:Troiano@First-Chair.COM]
>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 1998 4:03 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>> Subject: FW: Help-Need Concerns
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Troiano, John
>> >Sent: Friday, February 20, 1998 8:56 AM
>> >To: 'NELC List'
>> >Subject: RE: Help-Need Concerns
>> >This is the text of a letter that I sent to the National Office as
>> well as
>> >the Central Region office. I hope that you understand that the
>> >program has positively impacted lives over the last 50 plus years.
>> It is
>> >hard not to get emotional!
>> >February 18, 1998
>> >Mr. Jere Ratcliffe
>> >Chief Scout Executive
>> >Boy Scouts of America
>> >1325 W. Walnut Hill Lane
>> >P.O. Box 152079
>> >Irving, Texas 75015-2079
>> >Dear Mr. Ratcliffe:
>> >Having been deeply saddened by the Boards recent decision to
>> >change the Explorer program, I felt it important that you know how
>> strongly I
>> >feel that this decision appears to have been reached in haste without
>> >consultation of the volunteers in the program.
>> >It would be foolish for me to appear to fully understand all of the
>> >motivations involved in this drastic change. However, it remains
>> unclear to
>> >me how an organization whose purpose it is to instill values in young
>> >will be able to broaden its capacity to impact the character and
>> >behavior of teenagers through Learning for Life.
>> >Our escalating costs of litigation have always seemed difficult to
>> >however they were always easily justified. On February 11, 1998, the
>> >Executive Board decided it was no longer worth fighting for our
>> rights for
>> >free association. The immediate effect of that decision seems to
>> have left
>> >many career-interest Explorers, Volunteers and Chartering Partners
>> >disturbed that their organization has chosen to abandon them.
>> >When Bill Spurgeon pioneered career-interest Exploring his vision was
>> >by hard marketing data, the Yankelovich Study. Do you have the data
>> >clearly points to the necessity for this change? This is a very sad
>> day for
>> >Exploring, and it happened on your watch.
>> >I trust that you will be inundated by volunteers who feel equally as
>> >I hope that you, your staff and ultimately the National Executive
>> Board will
>> >reconsider the implementation of this initiative.
>> >Respectfully Submitted,
>> >John J. Troiano
>> >EOA Advisor
>> >Des Plaines Valley Council
>> >Cc: C. Michael Hoover
>> > Ron Hegwood
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: William H. Sills [SMTP:firstname.lastname@example.org]
>> >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 1998 1:32 PM
>> >To: NELC List; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
>> >Subject: Help-Need Concerns
>> >Dear Explorer Leaders & Sea Scouters:
>> > This morning, I was asked to supply,on a totally informal and
>> >anonymous basis, the thoughts, concerns and worries of all soon to be
>> >members of the Exploring Division. Please feel free to express every
>> >that you feel needs to be answered. I will make a digest of your
>> remarks. I
>> >will only include the names and units of those that wish it.
>> Otherwise, I
>> >will make your queries anonymous. This exercise is important for
>> >and Regional Executives need your input. Please send your remarks
>> ASAP since
>> >the meetings are beginning as I post this missive.
>> > Please understand that this is a benign effort and that
>> there will
>> >be absolutely no editorializing on my part. Only the raw data will be
>> >provided. My Scouting Spirit and my pledge to uphold the oath and law
>> >graven and stone.
>> > Please try to be specific and try to respond in the next 24
>> hours. No
>> >emotional responses would be useful in this matter.
>> >Bill Sills