Re: Another problem for Exploring in the BSA
Bob Amick (email@example.com)
Wed Feb 11 15:39:41 1998
I would echo Cliff's experience. We have had good luck with those
Explorers who have come into the Post from the Troop, wanting to
remain active as troop youth leaders such as SPL, ASPL and troop
guides; but we do not require it. When we first started the Post,
there was the usual great fear and apprehension from the Scoutmaster
that starting the Explorer Post would
deplete all the older Scouts who would normally serve as youth leaders;
so to calm those fears, the Explorers wrote bylaws that required
Scouts who joined the Post to remain active in support of the troop.
Non-Scouts were not held to this requirement. Hence,
some of the former Scouts who chose to no longer be active with the
troop objected to the troop participation requirement. There were only
a few, so it was not a large issue. But the principle was important, so
the bylaws were modified to "encourage" but not "require" participation.
This has been very successful. Now, some of our non-Scout members, both
male and female, are active in helping the troop, so it is really quite
a Scouting "family" relationship. The younger Scouts can hardly wait until
they are old enough to join the post/ship, so there is also an incentive
to keep them active and interested in the troop.
The most important objective is to keep youth active in Scouting
through which ever venue they choose to belong. By encouraging
the Explorers who were in the Troop and who wish to earn their Eagle,
to remain active as troop leaders and to
achieve the rank through the troop rather than the post, the
desired effect seems to occur. But if they choose to remain independent
of participation in the troop, or even to earn Eagle through the Post,
we also respect their choices.
Our new endeavor with a combined Explorer Post and Sea Explorer Ship has
really captivated the Explorers interest. We have had a very strong
influx of new members from other Scout Troops (who are retaining their
Scout troop membership) to work on Sea Explorer Advancement toward the
Quartermaster Award and to enjoy Sea Exploring opportunities in addition
to the regular menu of high adventure/outdoor activities we have planned.
We are also getting some Girl Scouts who are friends of current Explorers
that want to do Sea Exploring and more exciting outdoor high adventure.
Our web page is http://bcn.boulder.co.us/community/explorer72
Bob Amick, Explorer Advisor, High Adventure Explorer Post 72/S.E.S. 72
Boulder, CO; Longs Peak Council Exploring Training Chair
At 02:12 PM 2/11/98 CST6CDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-01-28 01:14:31 EST, Steve Featherkile writes:
> What i've done is to require the boys to participate in their troop
> activities at a 25% rate. That way they stay active with the troop and
> the troop gets the benefit of their experience and leadership.
> "Sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't." Most of the
> explorers are pretty good about doing that, knowing that it is a "price"
> they pay to belong to explorers. >>
>I have tried something similar to this, and have had no success with it. The
>boys just don't "buy in" to it, citing that all the other non-Scout Explorers
>have no such requirement. >