Re: permission forms
Dave Tracewell (email@example.com)
Thu, 22 May 1997 09:01:58 -0700
At 05:07 AM 5/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>This is a question about permission forms. Here in Australia we cannot take
>the Venturers anywhere unless they supply us (the leaders) with a permission
>form. What is it like in other countries?
Yes, it is a necessity here as well, in fact, we cannot even seek medical
help in the event of an emergency unless we have it. You did right. Being a
dedicated leader is fine, and it hurts when you make plans for an outing
only to find it has to be cancelled because of something like this, but we
have to CYA (cover your ---)so we can make sure we can go on other outings
>The kids I am with didn't supply one lat week and we refused to take them
>anywhere and thus threw a wobbly at us and decided to go on the activity
>anyway without us. They declared the meeting closed and then left, as
>leaders in an advisory roll it couldn't do a lot other than inform the
>parents what has happened. We have been backed up by the hierachy that we
>did the right thing.
I guess, depending on the event, the scouts could go do something as
friends, but here in the states, they tend to depend on the leaders for
things like transportation, hauling of equipment & supplies, etc. so it
would be a bit more difficult. (ie: to go on a camping trip or long
Here in California it is not unusual for us to drive 100 miles to the beach
or mountains. Where we are. if we go 100 miles west ( about a 2 hour drive)
we are in San Francisco or a beach on the Pacific Ocean, if we drive 100
miles east, we can be in Yosemite or in any of hundreds of camp sites in
the high Sierra Nevada Mountains. I can't think of a time when the Scouts
would try that without Adult leaders, (most of them cannot drive yet) and
it would be foolish to let them go without something from their parents
saying it was ok and permission to seek medical attention if the need arose.
>The permission forms are a leggal document that covers us (the leaders) in
>case of the scenario turns unfortunately sour, such as an accident.
>Looking forward to some comments.
We have a document that we use that covers (so far) all of the legal
aspects of the trek and includes emergency phone numbers, who's authorized
to pick up the Scout, any medical considerations such as allergys or
medication, and, of course, permission by the parent or legal guardian to
allow medical assistance in the event of an emergency or accident.
>And for those who do not know what throwing a wobbly is, it is like spitting
>the dummy, or if you are still at a lost, a tantrum would be the best
Kinda like "having a tizzy", "wigging out", "throwing a fit" or "popping
his gourd" (terms I hear from the Scouts heeheehee) I'll add yours to the
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